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Though the underaged material would not be illegal (not in most countries anyway), you'll find that it can be a hot-button issue on a public board like this. People have many different opinions and viewpoints on the subject and historically the discussions get quite heated.
As such, even if your material is completely clothed and doesn't meet any legal definition of pornography, you (and the rest of the board) are better off not posting it publicly. -
What he's talkng about sounds no different than the YouTube links that are posted here on a regular basis. In my opinion, unless the girl is clearly underage (such as pre-teen), I don't see it as an issue.
We have no legitimate method of determining age here. MANY girls (see http://www.emily18.com or http://www.melissa-ashley.com/) can look underage and have been adults for years (or decades).
If the self righteous want to bitch, let them bitch. No one has a gun to their head making them click a link.
BTW, that BlueWetting site blows. You have to enter a security code for each download. And so far, I've had the CORRECT security code entered, but the download rejected 4 or 5 times. Consider using sendspace.com.Last edited by Peevert; May 9, 2011, 07:15 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by Peevert
For what it is worth, I was able to view all of his posted links and my security code was accepted, without incident, the first time in all cases. Not sure what kind of problem you're having with it, man, but the links are all confirmed as working fine with no headaches on my end.
Thanks for posting them, desp fan.Comment
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Originally posted by Peevert
By the legal definition, "pornography" is any image that is viewed with intent to produce a sexual response... it's not just nude people or people engaged in obviously sexual acts. If you get off to it, it's porn... and as strict as the laws are regarding porn, especially underage porn, it's better to be safe than sorry and avoid posting anything that might even be remotely close to underage.Comment
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please post more! there hasnt been anything new on this front in years. these are great.Comment
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Originally posted by DeltaFoxtrot
Not that I want to draw this out any further than it already has been, but I am afraid you are dead wrong, at least as far as the United States is concerned. Pornoqraphy has absolutely no LEGAL definition. If you can provide me with any substantiating evidence of one from a Supreme Court Justice of your choice, I will gladly cede the point. But trust me, you won't find one. Closest you're going to come is Justice Potter Stewart's infamous 'definition' from an obscenity case wherein he stated 'I can't define it, but I know it when I see it.' It varies by state, it varies by township, it varies by judge...the entire concept is wholly subjective.
In any event, as I already made clear, I agree that it is simply safer and more sensible to NOT post material that you outright know is of a minor. But you really need to re-think your whole 'Porno is legally defined entirely in the eye of the beholder' argument.' It is grossly misleading and has absolutely no basis whatsoever in legal fact. If I get sexually aroused by watching The Roadrunner drop an anvil on Wile E. Coyote's head, that may make me a bit perverse. But it sure as hell doesn't magically make a Warner Brothers cartoon become 'pornography' in a court of law.Last edited by Major Travis; May 10, 2011, 03:26 AM.Comment
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Then why have people been tossed in jail on kiddie porn charges for having pics of children in diapers on their computers? Everything is covered, but the material was being used for sexual purposes... therefore PORN, therefore ILLEGAL.Originally posted by Major TravisComment
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I think you can only download 1 file at a time. I didn't get the download started as long as another one was going. No error either, and no auto download after the previous one was downloaded. Very slow download btw. So download one, wait and wait and download the next.Originally posted by Peevert
But good stuff Desp_Fan. Real things are the best. I would like some more crotch grabbing but ah well, you can't have everything
Pipi.Last edited by pipi; May 10, 2011, 06:41 AM.Comment
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Again, please cite the case, jurisdiction, charges, and sentencing.Originally posted by DeltaFoxtrot
Because what you are describing did not happen in the United States. Or, if it did, you are not describing it fully.
After a good deal of thorough searching, the only instances I could find of anyone in America 'tossed in jail' for having diaper pictures were both cases where the defendant waived their rights and PLEAD GUILTY and in both instances it was clearly stated that they had photos of children in 'various stages of undress, including diapers.' Both cases were also STATE LAW violations. Neither of them incurred any Federal charges.
Non-Naked/provocative kids +waived rights+ guilty plea+ obscure STATE obscenity law does not equal 'tossed in jail for thoughtcrime' like you're trying to describe.
But if I missed a case while searching where a defendant was charged, plead not guilty, and was STILL thrown in jail for photos that had no nudity and no overt, intentional sexual content, please cite it for me and I'll cede the point to you.
Again, I do not disagree that one should exercise caution and avoid posting known minors on a public fetish board, but I take exception to baseless, agitating scare tactics and misinterpretation of the law like you are presenting here.Comment
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In 2005 Brian Cobb, (who ran yior.the-cobb.com) was arrested on charges stemming from the display of photos of children wearing diapers (which he paid the parents to take)... several parents were also arrested in connection with this little plot.
Cobb was sentenced to jail time but details beyond that are sketchy at best because it happened 6 years ago.
Feel free to google the guy's name, you'll get lots of (rather dated) results. He stands out as possibly the worst one of the group, but I'm pretty darn sure it has happened to other people as well... but, like all sex crimes, it's swept under the rug and short of a legal database search you aren't going to pull anything up.Comment
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It's working for me now, I was able to DL the 4 videos of your GF. Not sure what was wrong with it last night. I haven't watched them yet, but thank you for posting.Originally posted by desp_fan
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Very well said.Originally posted by Major TravisComment
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I think that it's better just in case not to publish in this forum any links to videos about underages. Although in my opinion a video taken in a public place shouldn't be a problem.
Why not to send that kind of links as private messages. That shouldn't cause any problems.
Please don't understand me wrongly, i'm definetely not a pedophile and not interested about material containing for instance pre-teens or small children.Comment
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so i can't get the site to work, i enter the security code click download and it re-directs me to the homepage for bluewetting
can anyone help me?Comment
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