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Originally posted by davepYes, it's Skymouse. You can tell. Non Asian sites just dont capture the real deal.
What I don't like about the videos I have seen from WHP and IN2P is the bad acting. Not being good actors is no problem, but overacting is simply annoying. B2B is much better at this. There, they often don't even pretend there is no guy with a camera pointing at them and still have interesting videos IMHO.
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I agree it seems to me that none of the UK USA or European wetting pay sites has ever done this school girl wetting well or succesfully! I have to say this offering from Skymouse is about as good as its gets! I wonder why its not done more or done better? But I just wonder maybe even with a model over the age of 18 its thought a bit of a taboo subject as naturally its implying the model is of school age! I know people worry about even stuff like this in the UK these days.
But boy it can't be that hard can it to match what the likes of Giga can do can it! The models don't need to be award winning actresses do they! Firstly the UK and other US sites don't seem to pay enough attention to detail over the school uniform this is not hard to do at all! But then they can't seem to come up with a good scenario there is so many situations this could be made to work in! I have always wanted to see a model dressed in full proper uniform with short grey or navy pleated skirt school gym style tight nylon knickers white blouse tie and blazer ! Even better if we had a video shoot in the car on the school run car gets stuck in the morning rush hour traffic school girl got up late did not pee desperate in car stuck in traffic on way to school ends up pissing her royal blue school nylon knickers in the car! After despeartley trying to hold on!
Kev
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Originally posted by kevy19I wonder why its not done more or done better? But I just wonder maybe even with a model over the age of 18 its thought a bit of a taboo subject as naturally its implying the model is of school age! I know people worry about even stuff like this in the UK these days.
But boy it can't be that hard can it to match what the likes of Giga can do can it! The models don't need to be award winning actresses do they! Firstly the UK and other US sites don't seem to pay enough attention to detail over the school uniform this is not hard to do at all! But then they can't seem to come up with a good scenario there is so many situations this could be made to work in! I have always wanted to see a model dressed in full proper uniform with short grey or navy pleated skirt school gym style tight nylon knickers white blouse tie and blazer ! Even better if we had a video shoot in the car on the school run car gets stuck in the morning rush hour traffic school girl got up late did not pee desperate in car stuck in traffic on way to school ends up pissing her royal blue school nylon knickers in the car! After despeartley trying to hold on!
Kev
As a producer of wetting videos, I would like to do my best to answer your questions. Why aren't school girl videos being done more often, or better, than they currently are?
I think there are a few different factors that come into play here-
Depiction of Minors
In the USA, where I am producing videos at, the child pornography laws don't just forbid the usage of under 18 models, but depictions of any person under the age of 18. It doesn't matter if the actual model is over the age of 18, if she is playing the part of a 15 year old student, that is an illegal depiction. In the U.S. people have been prosecuted for drawings and stories featuring teens under the age of 18. Any school girl scenario video would have to be careful to portray the girls as being at least 18 years old, in their last year of school.
Economics
There simply isn't as much money to be made in producing wetting videos today as there was a few years ago. I do not know if it is because of the economy, or more competition, or piracy, or some other factor. All I know is that I and the other producers I speak to are really having a tough time breaking even. This means every time we do a video shoot we have to produce a certain number of videos. Sometimes we have been sent great ideas for scenarios, but can't do it because it would take too much time to film. Setting up a classroom scene, having someone playing the role of teacher and girls playing the roles of students becomes a very time consuming and expensive shoot. Back when I first started doing these videos, we had planned to do a classroom scene once we could afford it. However, we never reached that point financially where it became realistic.
Realism
It is hard to find girls who are willing to wet themselves on camera who are also great actresses. I've found the girls appear much more natural on camera when I don't give them scripts and just let them do their own thing. However, on more complex shoots like a classroom wetting where the camera shots would need to be planned, a script becomes a necessity and the quality of the performance suffers.
Finally I would like to say that I have done shoots that touched on the school girl theme before. We had a photo series accompanied by a behind the scenes video where Sammy and Mikki dressed up in school girl outfits and peed in their panties. More recently Mikki dressed as a high school girl and wet her jeans at a local high school.
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Originally posted by TVGuyIt is hard to find girls who are willing to wet themselves on camera who are also great actresses.
Oh is that just in my head?
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Hi TVGUY
Point Taken about the whole age thing which I did touch on in my first post and understand even if the model is over 18 it is a difficult one re some countries and the law which I fully understand the silly part of this law is you can watch a Giga video on your PC in say the UK or USA.
Times are really tough for everyone money wise that includes us subscribers and I think the main trouble with this whole wetting fetish for the pay sites is what I like personally and would love to see may well be a complete turn off for someone else who also love this wetting fetish as it has so many complex turns on's and off's we all seem to have a very deep personal view of what does it for us! And Pay sites have to do work to cater in this broad spectrum which is hard. I however still think there is room for better scenario type wettings in this spectrum.
And there again I think we all realise these models are not actresses but after all life is one big stage I think often its best for the models just to be themselves and not try to over act Just for them to be naturally full and busting! So to speak keep it simple.
Thanks for your time an explain re the USA Laws re any school type wetting still think its a shame this and other ideas are not better done but hey that's just my views .
Best wishes.
Kev.
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Originally posted by TVGuyDepiction of Minors
In the USA, where I am producing videos at, the child pornography laws don't just forbid the usage of under 18 models, but depictions of any person under the age of 18. It doesn't matter if the actual model is over the age of 18, if she is playing the part of a 15 year old student, that is an illegal depiction. In the U.S. people have been prosecuted for drawings and stories featuring teens under the age of 18. Any school girl scenario video would have to be careful to portray the girls as being at least 18 years old, in their last year of school.
Unless the Supreme Court ruling in Ashcroft v. The Free Speech Coalition has since been reversed, this hasn't been the case since 2002. The law now rightly recognizes fictional depictions of ideas, even the idea of minors in sexual situations, as protected speech.
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Originally posted by ControlFreakUnless the Supreme Court ruling in Ashcroft v. The Free Speech Coalition has since been reversed, this hasn't been the case since 2002. The law now rightly recognizes fictional depictions of ideas, even the idea of minors in sexual situations, as protected speech.
If the work in question lacks "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value" than you still can't offer up any portrayal of a minor, even if being played by an actress over the age of 18.
And though Ashcroft v. The Free Speech Coalition hasn't been reversed as far as I know, congress did pass the "Protect Act" in 2003 to address the issue. As far as I know there has not been a supreme court challenge to the protect act, but in the interest of staying out of jail myself, I would prefer not to be the one who challenges it.
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I think if someone really wanted to make a good school girl wetting they could.
The age issue is definitely a factor and I think it's best to err on the side of caution in this case. But a plausible school girl scenario could still be made with a class of senior girls or even college girls. One possibility could be the SAT/ACT or whatever other college entrance exam. I've heard so many experiences of wettings during those.
I don't think realism would be too much of a problem. There would actually be very little need for talking, and apart from the actual wetting any other part of the scenario could be re-shot and edited to make a more realistic video. These videos don't have to be one long continuous take where you get whatever you get.
As for economics, I think any group to successfully make a good quality school girl wetting would not have to worry about not making money on it. I think it's such a widely shared fantasy that hasn't been done well enough yet that plenty of people would be willing to pay for it. And a lot of the things that would improve any wetting video could be done with little to no cost.
Well, that's my opinion, but I do realize since I've never actually attempted to make a commercial wetting video it's quite possible that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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I used to be dom to a girl who lived a long way from me so we could only chat on msn, almost every day she would allow me to control/deny her use of the toilet and would desperately try to hold on for real, not pretending like so many videos. Even though she was age 40, she was a size 6 so from behind still looked like a school girl, sometimes I would have her wear a school uniform whilst she was holding, and of course, she would inveitably end up wetting herself. Unfortunately she moved further away and the contact was lost, if only I had recorded some of those desperation sessions....
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oh, yes. If I only had vids of all the girls I have dressed up in schoolgirl uniforms and had them act out wetting accidents.(still have pics of a few, posted them years ago on photoboard) I even had a school desk in my house. School skirts and cheerleader uniforms can be found in thrift stores. Memories. Anyone telling you they cant make a vid bec of law is full of shit. Parochial school girls wear uniforms in high school, and many seniors (even juniors) are 18. There is no proof what age they are depicting if you dont say. That would be like saying that vids of diapered girls are kid porn bec they are protraying 1 year olds!!!
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Originally posted by davepThat would be like saying that vids of diapered girls are kid porn bec they are protraying 1 year olds!!!
Thank fuck I am only into knicker wetting and better still - INTENTIONAL wetting and not accidental wettings.
I am just letting people know so I am not linked to the baby side of this kink.
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