schoolgirl wetting

[davep]

Right on. With me, the "diapering women" thing was an acquired fetish that came later in life. I had the "female accident" fetish since childhood, and for years thought it would be the only fetish. We DO get kinkier as we get older, and our mind broadens.....

[Apemantus]

"My kink is OK but yours is fucked up."

Yeah, I see that attitude a lot in the community.

Grow up asshole.

Perfectly said. Seconded!

[KingPlant]

Perfectly said. Seconded!

So can I understand that you two both think that any kink is fine as long as you are not involved in it. I think I am extremely understanding about other peoples feelings and attitudes, I just can't get my head around people wanting a baby gurl(sic) to nurse as part of their turn on.

I can understand the baby gurl(sic) however, they stand to make loads of money from either direct cash payment or in gifts sent. I just think certain types of gurls(sic) know how to make money the easiest.

I just wonder whether the people who are into this would feel the same about a 70 year old having to wear incontinence pads. Same thing, just a slightly thinner pad.

I am not here to be PC. I am here on my PC.

[Apemantus]

I think I am extremely understanding about other peoples feelings and attitudes, I just can't get my head around people wanting a baby gurl(sic) to nurse as part of their turn on.

Second half of that sentence contradicts the first half. Not a complete surprise, bearing in mind your neanderthal comments so far.

Most people will have fetishes they like, fetishes they don't like, fetishes they think are strange, but as far as I am concerned anything between consenting adults is between consenting adults and bully for them. I take issue with fakers and con artists but genuine fetishists are fine by me, whatever their desires.

I don't find golden showers appealing, but I don't diss people who do. It's called tolerance and openmindedness.

I do however think you're an objectionable asshole so if there is a group for people who think the same, that would turn me on lots!

PS Is your name Maxie by any chance, because you certainly write like he did, come from the same part of the UK and have the same attitude. If not, maybe you're his even more evil twin...!

[KingPlant]

Second half of that sentence contradicts the first half. Not a complete surprise, bearing in mind your neanderthal comments so far.

Most people will have fetishes they like, fetishes they don't like, fetishes they think are strange, but as far as I am concerned anything between consenting adults is between consenting adults and bully for them. I take issue with fakers and con artists but genuine fetishists are fine by me, whatever their desires.

I don't find golden showers appealing, but I don't diss people who do. It's called tolerance and openmindedness.

I do however think you're an objectionable asshole so if there is a group for people who think the same, that would turn me on lots!

PS Is your name Maxie by any chance, because you certainly write like he did, come from the same part of the UK and have the same attitude. If not, maybe you're his even more evil twin...!

A have been asked that before (Am I maxie) and the answer is still the same NO....

There are lots of different parts to this fetish that, although I don't participate in, I don't dislike. I don't even dislike adults (dressed as adults) wearing nappies if that's what they like doing.

What I do worry about is the fact that, if someone is dressed as a baby and has a 'daddy' to look after them is pushing the envelope a bit too far. I also believe that the 'gurls' who participate are only in it for the money.

Getting watersports more accepted in mainstream society then adult baby stuff is not going to help. I believe it has a detrimental effect on watersports. Also, what do you think would be easiest explained to the police if they come knocking.

You screaming that I am an asshole is not constructive to the conversation either. Is that because you have run out of reasoned explanations to your fetish.

[davep]

Although there will always be women who do the diaper thing for money; believe me when I tell you that there are many adult baby females around. Some have regressive behavioral issues, but many find it sexual. I have know and corresponded with women who are into this, who were not after any money. Some just like the security of being cuddled and babied, with sexuality as an afterthought. Others are purely sexual; as are women who wet themselves for sexual gratification.

[Aloo]

KingPlant, so much of what you say is just incorrect on so many levels..... factually..... morally....

A few case points: The first was discussed last week, in which you suggested that you are the only guy into watersports who has told their partner, apparently based on the fact that the photoboard is not awash with photo's of wifes and girlfriends in wet pants. On that particular front, the fact that I have told my partner means I knew that you were wrong, period, end of story. Just because a partner doesn't participate often, or even ever, doesn't mean they haven't been told. And the numerous regulars on the photoboard also prove you to be incorrect.

A second case point:

I also believe that the 'gurls' who participate are only in it for the money

Based on what may I ask? Ever been to Wetting Wonderland? There is a chat room there with a number of regular female participants who wear and wet diapers. They are very real people - the webcam function is a very accurate way of ensuring that the person you are speaking to is female (unless you are suggesting they all hire Hollywood level make-up artists to hide their masculinity?). And how much do they 'earn' from coming online to discuss their own diaper fetishes? Absolutely nothing.

That's why I hate nappy watersports. It gives the wrong impression but I believe anyone liking that is even more strange.

So, like DeltaFoxtrot said, you attitude is "My kink is OK but yours is fucked up."?

My gf looks damn sexy when I get her to wear a nappy. Again, it is very infrequent to say the least (3 or 4 times in 9 years) but when she does indulge me, it's amazing.

So what is this wrong impression you speak of? Are you suggesting infantilism relates to paedophilia or something? If so it is even more ludicrous.....

Aloo

[KingPlant]

I have already explained that I don't think "My kink is OK but yours is fucked up." at all.

I just don't think this AB stuff bodes as easily with the law and society as does a bit of knicker wetting.

Just because girls go on the chat room (if they are really girls - by admission from people who go on the chat rooms) that doesn't mean that they are into it. There is money to be made out of sad lonely men so make sure you are not one of the suckers who get stung.

Write to me when you invite one of these DL girls from the chat room on a date and she foots all the bill. Don't cry that you wouldn't expect that because they rely on that attitude.

If you don't mind footing the bill for a night of fun then all you are doing is promoting high class call girls.

Now I am going to get shot - lol Do I care?? Do I fuck. My sig says it all.

[ControlFreak]

I have already explained that I don't think "My kink is OK but yours is fucked up." at all.

No, you haven't explained that. You've stated that that's not your attitude, but everything that you've said demonstrates that it is.

I just don't think this AB stuff bodes as easily with the law and society as does a bit of knicker wetting.

What on Earth are you talking about? With the exception of backwards-ass localities that still have sodomy laws on the books, the law doesn't have a say in what consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes. But you think AB is less socially acceptable than wetting? I think you're having a hard time differentiating between what society thinks and what you think. Of course you don't find watersports objectionable, because that's what you're into. Do you not realize that there are many, many people who look on your fetish with exactly the same level of revulsion with which they look on AB? If the latter ceases to exist, it's not going to change a single thing about people's attitudes towards your fetish. You can't honestly be of the opinion that there are people in mainstream society who look at fetish subculture and think, "Those panty-wetting people - they'd be totally okay in my book if it weren't for the fact that they're hanging out with those diaper freaks."

It seems to me that you're trying to scapegoat a subset of the community as a way of rationalizing your own lack of social acceptance.

I'm not sure whether you're accusing ABs of being pedophiles or if you just think they're more likely to be perceived as pedophiles. Either way, I know this came up in another thread, but you failed entirely to grasp the concept: You are essentially making the following contradictory assertions.

1) If you enjoy an adult indulging in child-like behaviors like wearing diapers and drinking from bottles, then you are enjoying a depiction of a child.

2) It is not the case that if you enjoy an adult indulging in child-like behaviors like wetting his or her pants, then you are enjoying a depiction of a child.

You can't have it both ways. At least, you can't have it both ways without some pretty impressive logical acrobatics.

Write to me when you invite one of these DL girls from the chat room on a date and she foots all the bill. Don't cry that you wouldn't expect that because they rely on that attitude.

Granted, I didn't meet my LG in the Wetting Wonderland chat room, but I don't think it really matters, as you're trying to disparage LGs and female ABs in general. Will it change your attitude when I say that when she and I go out, I pay for her and she pays for me, or that our entire relationship consists of sharing equally in both material and emotional ways? She's happy to give back in whatever way she can because by letting her become little when she's in my home, I am indulging a psychological need that she has for feeling cared-for and for relieving the stress of her very adult day-to-day life. So yeah, AB girls are selfish, but they're selfish in exactly the same ways that panty-wetting fetishists and every other fucking human being are selfish: they want to have their desires fulfilled.

[DeltaFoxtrot]

I have already explained that I don't think "My kink is OK but yours is fucked up." at all.

I just don't think this AB stuff bodes as easily with the law and society as does a bit of knicker wetting.

Just because girls go on the chat room (if they are really girls - by admission from people who go on the chat rooms) that doesn't mean that they are into it. There is money to be made out of sad lonely men so make sure you are not one of the suckers who get stung.

Write to me when you invite one of these DL girls from the chat room on a date and she foots all the bill. Don't cry that you wouldn't expect that because they rely on that attitude.

If you don't mind footing the bill for a night of fun then all you are doing is promoting high class call girls.

Now I am going to get shot - lol Do I care?? Do I fuck. My sig says it all.

You are so funny. My wife just happens to be into all this ageplay stuff and she pays her way in the relationship just as I do. Quit with your prejudices and stereotypes, you only make yourself look like a moron.

[Apemantus]

A have been asked that before (Am I maxie) and the answer is still the same NO....

There are lots of different parts to this fetish that, although I don't participate in, I don't dislike. I don't even dislike adults (dressed as adults) wearing nappies if that's what they like doing.

What I do worry about is the fact that, if someone is dressed as a baby and has a 'daddy' to look after them is pushing the envelope a bit too far. I also believe that the 'gurls' who participate are only in it for the money.

Getting watersports more accepted in mainstream society then adult baby stuff is not going to help. I believe it has a detrimental effect on watersports. Also, what do you think would be easiest explained to the police if they come knocking.

You screaming that I am an asshole is not constructive to the conversation either. Is that because you have run out of reasoned explanations to your fetish.

Calling you an asshole is just an easy shortcut but here is the longform explanation.

I met a girl who liked to piss and shit in nappies, suck a dummy, act like a baby, be treated like one by me as her Daddy and we went out for several months. At no point did she ask for money, we were consenting adults and acted like adults at every stage other than when she was in her role. It was a normal relationship with kink at the centre.

She enjoyed the feelings and sensations, she was a normal person with a normal job, she was intelligent and fun. She just had a kink to her, as do many people, the kink varies.

What you 'believe' is based simply on your own prejudices (because you ARE an asshole) and your own ignorance about role play, sub-dom and the ABDL interplay within that.

Go and educate yourself, then come back here and pontificate. Until you do, you are indeed simply an asshole.

[Aloo]

I just don't think this AB stuff bodes as easily with the law and society as does a bit of knicker wetting.

I have a simple way to sum this up.

Children can be naked.
My girlfriend can be naked.
I am turned on by my girlfriend being naked.
I am not however turned on by naked children.

I believe the above to be true of most normal hetrosexual adult men.

Therefore, what is the problem with:

Children can wear nappies.
My girlfriend can wear nappies.
I am turned on by my girlfriend wearing nappies.
I am not however turned on my children wearing nappies.

Boding well with the law doesn't come into it. The law is quite clear on sexual interaction with minors. The only sexual interaction I have ever had any interest in as an adult is with other adults.

Spanking is also something that happens to us as usually only as children. Are you suggesting a spanking fetish is also something that doesn't bode well with the law?

And on a final point, IMO there are far more AB's / DL's about the world than wetting enthusiasts. For example, check out the number of DL type groups on facebook, then check out the number of wetting groups.

Aloo

[WBxx]

And on a final point, IMO there are far more AB's / DL's about the world than wetting enthusiasts. For example, check out the number of DL type groups on facebook, then check out the number of wetting groups.

Aloo

Yet the number of threads/posts here suggest the opposite.

[KingPlant]

I have a simple way to sum this up.

Children can be naked.
My girlfriend can be naked.
I am turned on by my girlfriend being naked.
I am not however turned on by naked children.

I believe the above to be true of most normal hetrosexual adult men.

Therefore, what is the problem with:

Children can wear nappies.
My girlfriend can wear nappies.
I am turned on by my girlfriend wearing nappies.
I am not however turned on my children wearing nappies.

Boding well with the law doesn't come into it. The law is quite clear on sexual interaction with minors. The only sexual interaction I have ever had any interest in as an adult is with other adults.

Spanking is also something that happens to us as usually only as children. Are you suggesting a spanking fetish is also something that doesn't bode well with the law?

And on a final point, IMO there are far more AB'ss / DL's about the world than wetting enthusiasts. For example, check out the number of DL type groups onfacebookk, then check out the number of wetting groups.

Aloo

I agree with you and that applies to me where knicker wetting is concerned, but you haven't mentioned the people who like to dress up as babies wearing nappies and wetting them wanting you to change it afterwards - does that turn you on?

I even understand shitting (or scat as they like to call it). I couldn't get involved but I do understand those that do.

It's just this baby stuff I can't get my head round and no one has yet given me their reasons for liking it. They just defend their actions.

I am not afraid to tell people I am into wetting but I am not going to get my missus to piss all over someone else's property or in their company. Yes she does wet herself when we are out but we are careful where she does it. I love the intentional wetting in a public place but not on public property.

[tinkletown]

I am not afraid to tell people I am into wetting but I am not going to get my missus to piss all over someone else's property or in their company. Yes she does wet herself when we are out but we are careful where she does it. I love the intentional wetting in a public place but not on public property.

I'm confused, you love intentional wetting in a public place but not on public property? How does that work? You only let your wife pee on private property that is also public?

It's just this baby stuff I can't get my head round and no one has yet given me their reasons for liking it. They just defend their actions.

Personally, I'm not really into the baby stuff either, but I can see the appeal. After dealing with the stresses of adult life, they want to pretend to return to a time when everything was simple and there was always someone there to take care of them. How that becomes sexual, Freud only knows, but it makes as much sense as any other fetish.

Sexual fetishes are very strange psychological phenomena. I doubt very many people really understand why certain things turn them on. Could you explain to me exactly why you are into panty wetting?