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[Lloyd_R1]

Fakes v Real

I find it interesting that we still seem to have this conversation here from time to time, in one form or another. This time it's EP. But it's always the same as to attitudes. There are those who believe what they read and those that claim it's all fake, and then there are the ones in the middle who believe some but not all, are fake and the others real.

But what I find really interesting is the lack of any tangible evidence one way or the other as to the reality or not of any of it. Surely, given a lack of any evidence to the contrary, the accounts should be accepted as at least possibly real. Noone seems to post there, for instance, saying that it's all fake - there are women there who appear to be women - if you follow them to other experiences you see that they do indeed appear to have female experiences and attitudes to those experiences. Yes, of course some of them are fake, but all? I find that hard to believe - that means there is not one single woman anywhere who likes this. Not very realistic. And if you allow that there is at least one, why not more?

I'm not saying there are no fakes, just that I am yet to see any evidence of them being fake. In the light of that, we must accept that at least some of these so called women who like wetting are actually real....

[Apemantus]

I find it interesting that we still seem to have this conversation here from time to time, in one form or another. This time it's EP. But it's always the same as to attitudes. There are those who believe what they read and those that claim it's all fake, and then there are the ones in the middle who believe some but not all, are fake and the others real.

But what I find really interesting is the lack of any tangible evidence one way or the other as to the reality or not of any of it. Surely, given a lack of any evidence to the contrary, the accounts should be accepted as at least possibly real. Noone seems to post there, for instance, saying that it's all fake - there are women there who appear to be women - if you follow them to other experiences you see that they do indeed appear to have female experiences and attitudes to those experiences. Yes, of course some of them are fake, but all? I find that hard to believe - that means there is not one single woman anywhere who likes this. Not very realistic. And if you allow that there is at least one, why not more?

I'm not saying there are no fakes, just that I am yet to see any evidence of them being fake. In the light of that, we must accept that at least some of these so called women who like wetting are actually real....

Seeing how I have known several women who like to wet in real life, and that there are many clearly real videos (hell, anyone who is on Fetlife knows there are lots of real women), your conclusion is bizarre. But just because there are real women who like to wet does not mean when we have no evidence in a particular direction that we should assume what fits with our carnal thoughts.

An analogy. We know that lots of women, perhaps nearly half the global population indeed, like to have sex. But you know all those irritating pop-up spam adverts where they are pretending to be your friend, you know the ones that we all click close to. Yeah, they are fake. ALL of them. Every single one. Some sites just are full of shit.

So, here is the simple truth - some sites, some contexts, just bring out the worst trolls, the rush of fakers, the rush of pretenders. This doesn't mean that you can then extrapolate that all women are fake, simply that it is plausible that some sites, by nature of being the sort of site they are, or being overrun with the fakers in the first place, attract that sort of person.

But, hey, I'm happy that nothing can dent your rose-tinted view, it must be a great way to see things (like a true believer in religion, I guess) but alas for some of us, a cold, hard look at reality is how we see the world...

[Lloyd_R1]

Seeing how I have known several women who like to wet in real life, and that there are many clearly real videos (hell, anyone who is on Fetlife knows there are lots of real women), your conclusion is bizarre.

Sorry, I must have missed something - just why is my conclusion bizarre? I agree with pretty much everything you wrote, yet you say I have a rose-tinted view... Which bit of what I wrote exactly gave you that impression?

I can't help but feel you are trying to make a point about what I wrote but I just don't get what it is....