A fantasy: the not-so-magic wetting pill

[Betanumeric]

An offbeat fantasy here, definitely something I shouldn't actually do, but something it's fun to think about, now that I know it's possible and could be real.

Here goes:

1: There are drugs that relax the involuntary sphincter muscles holding pee in. Women on these medications have reported problems with 'leakage'.

2: There are drugs - relaxants and tranquillizers, notoriously, diazepam - that make it harder to maintain the voluntary muscle tension that holds pee in. This effect is reported at levels below the medically-useful dose that people would actually notice and perceive that they are 'drugged'.

3: There are different drugs, acting by a different mechanism, that strengthen the contractions of the bladder muscles that expel pee.

4: There are drugs that make the bladder *more* excitable and active, not less. Caffeine, famously, but there are far more specific and far more powerful ones.

5: There are diuretics.




Those are ALL legal prescription drugs. The only dangerous ones are diuretics - seriously, water is the safest and best diuretic - and there is a risk with uncontrolled bladder contractions if there's any blockage or obstruction. Oh, and that 'strengthen the contraction of the bladder' class of drugs also increases muscular activity in the gut, so you'd need to co-administer an over-the-counter opioid anti-diarrhoea medication.


All in all, not a 'magic pill', and all medications carry some risk: so actually, it's not something you or I should do. It's also illegal: so don't. But yes, it's entirely possible to make a woman incontinent - and not just leaking a bit, *voiding* pee as 'urge incontinence' and making a puddle, loudly.



Fantasize a bit: what would be the most interesting place and time to administer the not-so-magic wetting pill?

Feel free to post these fantasies.




A footnote: I choose not to fantasize about an illegal drug, occasionally mentioned here, noted for a 'depersonalisation' effect in which the users enter a trance-like state, indifferent to their bodies - there's YouTube-age out there of women wetting themselves on it. That's illegal, as in narcotics and serious jail-time; and it's an unknown danger - drugs of uncertain purity in uncontrolled use without any safety-testing. Seriously: NO.

[Percival]

A couple of minor points: water is not a diuretic. Diuretics reduce body water.

The illegal drug would be ketamine? Long term use of which can lead to permanent bladder weakness and urinary incontinence. Not recommended (unless you actually want to become incontinent).

[DeltaFoxtrot]

To make my wife more "accident prone" I use a combination of cranberry and dandelion root extract, both available in pill form over the counter. Combined with 2 or 3 large glasses of water produces repeated strong urges over a few hours... good for the kidneys too.

[Betanumeric]

In reply to Percival's minor points...

The 'water is the best diuretic' remark is more rhetorical than pharmacologically-correct... It's easier to say, and far more likely to be noticed and noted by people who need to know it, than the 'correct' answer. If you're among the people who who read the post and said 'Aha! M3 muscarinic agonists!', I think it's safe to say that you'll see it that way too.

And no, the illegal narcotic isn't ketamine: I wasn't aware that 'Special K' had that effect. The one I had in mind is another narcotic, recently-popular, and I'm not naming it. There are very good reasons for discouraging interest in it.

Reading your reply, I might've looked into Ketamine myself... Then I read this:

Urinary tract symptoms have been collectively referred as ketamine-induced ulcerative cystitis or ketamine-induced vesicopathy, and they include urge incontinence, decreased bladder compliance, decreased bladder volume, detrusor overactivity, and painful haematuria (blood in urine). Bilateral hydronephrosis and renal papillary necrosis have also been reported in some cases.

That'll be a 'No', then. Admittedly, that's all about long-term Ketamine abusers, with all the dosage and purity issues that accompany illegally-obtained drugs. But I think I've learned more I than I want to know about 'K' in that one paragraph, and more than enough to know that I wouldn't use it - except if directed to do so under medical supervision - or give it to anyone else.

Interestingly, we *may* see Ketamine more widely prescribed as an emergency measure to lift severe depression, as existing medications are effective but slow in onset, leaving the patient severely ill (and often a suicide risk) for several weeks. But even if it made a patient wet herself immediately, and repeatedly thereafter, I'm not interested: I can't quite bring myself to take an erotic thrill from someone's illness.

[DanceFan]

Why bother with all that? Personally my biggest fantasy is when a girl wets herself deliberately on her own free will and is filly aware that what she's doing is turning me on. Drugging someone to wet themselves without their consent or control seems wrong to me. Just say'n.

[Percival]

Drugging someone to wet themselves without their consent or control seems wrong to me. Just say'n.

I don't think anyone would argue with that. The OP did say it was fantasy. Drugging people without consent is a bad idea, both on ethical and legal grounds!

[DeltaFoxtrot]

Drugging someone to wet themselves without their consent or control seems wrong to me. Just say'n.

SSC... Safe, Sane, Consensual.

[Rayford21]

Drinking water

Water apppears to be a harmless way to fill the bladder voluntarily, but here are some facts you might consider before participating in the "hold-it" type contests.

First, if you elect to get a full bladder consider it a balloon that could burst should you fall or something hits it, with a long term ill effect or even death. This is especially true if you're in a serious car or motorcycle accident, better to pee yourself rather than risk the consequences.

Second, continuous drinking of water depletes the electrolytes in your blood stream. These electrolytes are the "wires" that communicate brain messages to the nerves. Called "over hydration" this could lead to some serious medical problems too, so don't overdo the water thing.

The liquids that active athletes drink during their activities (including runners) are usually "sports" drinks that contain electrolytes. There are a number of brands of these drinks on the market.
If you google "sports drinks" there is a medical site that has a formula for you to make your own.
I don't know if this makes full bladders any safer or not; there may be other medical things to consider before a person indulges in it.
This is not to scare anyone, I've been through a lot of wetting instances at beer and drinking bashes and never saw any serious medical urinary problems. However these instances were only several hours long at most.
Don't overdo the full bladder thing.

[genxer]

it takes a lot of water to kill you.. I have only read 2 cases of people dying from drinking too much water.... one was a college kid from a college in arizona or new mexico... and the other was a woman in a radio contest... both drank about 5 gallons of water is 1-2 hours. If you just wanted to fill your bladder it only take 16-32 ounces more water then you need.... your bladder is a tiny thing.