Background and a request at the end.

[fnooks]

Hi all,
First I'd like to give you all a bit of an insight to how I got into watersports. Then I'd like to make a request.

The first ever memory of me liking females wetting themselves was when I was about 7/8 years old (around 1983/84). We were in P.E class at school and one of the girls in my class (Claire) asked the teacher if she could go to the toilet. Our teacher said no and that she'd have to wait. At break time Claire didn't look happy, so I asked her if she was ok? She told me that she was so desperate in P.E that she had wet herself a little before she could get to the toilet. I spent the whole break getting her to go over and over it.

I remember on odd occasions, trying to get girls to wet themselves (but at that age it didn't seem to be in a sexual way).

The first time I remember it being sexual, was when I was 12(1988). I was in the bottom group for Maths and English, and we had a special room for us "dunces". Being in the bottom group back then, meant that you stayed there, and had no chance of ever making it up to any other group. But I digress, (That's a whole gripe I've got with the education system back then and nothing to do with this recount). A friend had managed to get hold of a copy of his Dads Fiesta's "Interchange stories" mag. He read the stories from it at break time. One of the stories was from a young lady who wet herself on the way home from a party, and her and her boyfriend enjoyed the experience. Every one (including myself) expressed our feelings on how "gross" this was, but secretly, this really turned me on and took me back to the P.E incident 4 or 5 years previous.

Over the next 5 years (apart from the odd mag I'd managed to get my hands on) I found no other reference to watersports, and thought of myself as weird and alone. I don't know if anyone else ever felt the way I did, but it felt sooooo very lonely, thinking I was a freak.

At 17 I got my first PC, connected it (via a cable running from my bed room to our phone line in the living room) to the "world wide web". The first thing after setting up, was to type in "knicker wetting". To my complete joy an amazement, I found that I wasn't alone in my weirdness, I even shed a tear (no lie). The first site I found was the great "Patches place" and wet set soon followed.

Although I'd found these sites, and found I was not the only one who got turned on by this, I still felt alone for many years. Not daring to tell any girl friends or sexual partners about it for fear of rejection or ridicule.

I got married when I was 23 in 1999 and, on our one years anniversary, told my wife. She said she wasn't disgusted with it but didn't think she could do it for me. In the fourteen years we've been married, we've gone from, not doing it at all, to leaking when she was pregnant, to not wiping after a pee and pulling her knickers back up before sex, to not completely finishing and pulling her knickers up and letting the rest go (sometimes miss judging and peeing quite a lot into her knickers) to now standing in the bath on occasion and completely peeing her knickers (I'm working on getting her to do it fully clothed). She must really love me....

Now to the request.

I like all the vids out there, but none of them seem real.

I have some great Ideas for situations where ladies could become desperate and finally pee themselves. I'd love to direct these ideas into video form.

So what I'm proposing/looking for is, a producer, a camera man/woman and a couple of actresses, who would like to try starting a real looking series of desperate and wetting vids.

I know it wont be easy to get off the ground, and there will be a lot of people saying how stupid the idea is or how it would never work, but I'd still like to give it a go.

So if anybody is interested, please leave a comment and we'll discuss getting in touch. I live in the southwest of England but can travel.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and I would also like to hear how others got into this and earliest memories of it.

Thanks again.

[Jenelle]

Background and a request at the end

Hi Fnooks. The way I see it, it wouldn't do any harm to create something different than what is already out there. Although I personally like much of the material out there, it would be refreshing to see embarrassed and shamed emotions as I assume would happen if a woman not into this fetish wet herself on accident. As far as my interest in accidents goes, it started for me when I was in middle school. One of my classmates pooped in her pants when she was denied permission to go to the bathroom (I know, wrong fetish!), and seeing it happen brought about a distinct change in me. I'm not as much into pooping though, but I love peeing myself and seeing other women do the same. I encourage you to share your creativity.

[Patches]

@fnooks,

Thanks for sharing some of your personal journey with us. And thank you for your mention of Patches Place. Part of the reason I started the site and kept it free and open was for people like you to know they are not alone in this fetish and that there are others who enjoy watersports.

There are four video producers who live in your area (meaning the British Isles). This includes Skymouse, Project Pee, Sneaky Pee, and Koukouvayia. I could make inquiries for you with any of them to see if they are interested in hearing your proposal. Koukouvayia is no longer making videos (at least for release to the public) because of all the piracy. However, the Pee Devil series may come the closest to what you are interested in. If you want to get in touch with any of them, send me a PM and include your email address. I will pass along your email address so they can contact you if they are interested in hearing your proposal.

[Dusty Harold]

A Great Fetish & A Great Place To Go To

@Fnooks ,

Like you I got interested in my pee fetish about the same time as you did . Plus it was triggered by an incident in P.E. class as well ! Where in my case . I actually saw a girl pee herself a flood ! Not more than a foot / two from where I was standing facing her . When she couldn't hold on any longer and let it all go
How shocked I was ! Plus how I felt bad about what had happened to my classmate and how she was being treated . By others in the class room . Making fun at her having wet herself !Plus how the Teacher had ignored her request to go to the rest room . Before the accident happened ! !
So that's how I got my interests into the pee fetish I now love to indulge in and like you felt like a freak and very alone in my interests in this fetish I had discovered some time ago at the same age as you were at that time . It wasn't until I got onto the internet , with my own computer . Did I start to find out there were other people out there . Who shared the same love as I had for this unique fetish . We both have . Since it's not talk about from much among other groups interested in talking about that of sex and what turns people on to it in circles of sexual interests among others .
It wasn't until I found , '' Patches Place " and also corresponding with Patches Herself . That I started to feel much better in knowing I wasn't alone in how I love peeing
Patches , really opened my eyes to have fun this fetish is to indulge in . Plus helped me in allowing me to make suggestions for certain scenarios . That she used in some of the film work she has made over the years , for purchase on her website . That I feel made my interests stronger . In knowing her and where I could go to . To get advice and my many questions answered as well . Patches Place , was the only place in the U.S.A. that sold pee porn and had quite a few producers represented from across the world . So Patches Place and Wet Set also . Were the best places to visit if you had a love for the pee fetish we both love to indulge in
My I suggest also to check with , '' I Need 2 Pee , a website that also films Female Desperation videos . That I know that particular producer loves to get new ideas for filming . That Patches can get in touch with also , on your behalf on what you wish to try and are able to do
Good Luck and also Welcome to the Forum and the community that loves that of Pee

Dusty Harold.

[fnooks]

Thanks all, especially Patches. I thought I'd get ribbed for even thinking of making videos.

[Wet Trousers]

There are a couple of other possible approaches too, as well as those that Patches suggests.

Idea one is that Skymouse (mentioned by Patches) has a custom video service where you can buy a video to your specification. See the announcement near the top of http://www.wetbbs.com/forums/forumdi...y-wetting-Chat or contact Skymouse directly (see Contacts on that Wetting Her Panties site). That is a commercial service, but rates would be negotiable depending on what you wanted.

Idea two is to hire an amateur (or professional) cameraman and couple of models. Models advertise on various web sites; you would need models listing as doing fetish work (and would need to check that they then do watersports). You would need to join to make contact through the sites. Photographers are also availabe that way but they are less classified, so it might be better to ask the models for photographers that they know (and are comfortable with). Again, you would need to pay their hire fees, but that would generally be somewhat less as you would not be paying for the management and would be taking the risk (eg, of a model being ill and unable to come on the day) yourself.

Finally, let me say that I have done both and can recommend the results. For the first, my partner bought me half of the first custom shoot as a birthday present (would yours?!). In the case of the second idea, I was already a keen amateur stills photographer and bought a video camera to develop my own skills in that rather than pay to hire a cameraman (it broke even after a couple of shoots). I now shoot a few private w/s videos for myself with a few selected models that I know, edit them myself and get the videos exactly how I want! Don't suppose many people try out a video camera for the first time with a couple of models wetting themselves and my results got better (but that clip was still ok).

Good luck and, above all, enjoy it!

[Patches]

@fnooks,

Wet Trousers have given you some good suggestions that I did not think of. However, I thought of one other possibility for you. They guy who shot the Pissy Galore videos is a professional camera man. He even made a commercial indie movie that was marketed and sold at Cannes.

He is no longer making Pissy Galore videos and now has other business interests. However, he might be approachable for doing some independent video work. Just a thought... let me know if this interest you.

[kevy19]

Hi I admire what you are trying to do here very much! I'm that bit older and have been in to this whole pee thing a good few more years! Interesting to read how it started for yourself! I have been on line since the very early days of 1996 and was amazed at what the Internet brought us over those next few years! Things I never thought I would see! I have to say since about the last 10 years for me and this is very much my own personal views thoughts and feelings its gone off the boil and the pay sites are covering us the same old stuff and I'm not in to knocking any of them here either! As they must be doing what some people like out there! But to me I don't want to see a very attractive model just wet her panties in some bland room each week! Or see a different model in the same outfit locked out yet again or desperate in her car or tied up to something yet again! For me this has got so bland and to the point of boring! I never thought I would ever say that but I suppose that's happened as this whole fetish has become more open and well maybe main stream is not quite the right words to use as yet but I'm sure you know what I mean! Plus lets be honest as I have always said there is so many likes and dislikes to this whole wetting thing what one man likes another may not maybe many men must like to see girls just wet there pants in some bland room each week. But I have been saying for years I love the played out scenario wettings best of all and sadly there is not a pay site these days that seems to want to do these or that can do a good one anymore. Maybe time money and locations all come in to play when you are doing commercial videos! Which I can understand. I would rather they did a good video say just once a month rather than just churn bland stuff out and I'm not in to any of the web cam live pee stuff so that does not interest me!

I got so fed up a few years ago with what was on offer, I contacted a few of the well known pay sites and as others have said here it maybe possible for you to work and collaborate with them with the view to making a video to your own liking. For me it soon became clear just the whole logistics of this idea was not going to work for many reasons. But I see no reason why maybe it could work for others!

No so I went down this route! I'm also based in the UK Midlands. I firstly sauced one of my own models whom I made sure would be very happy to act out some of my own scenarios and made it quite clear what I was after! Very important. I new a little bit about still photography but nothing at all about shooting a basic video. I brought a reasonable second hand video camera and got practicing with this then got a model booked for just half a day and did some fun little videos which OK were very basic. I found it hard this first time to not shake the camera with my excitement at what I was doing! But my model did not seemed fazed by my ideas and the results were quite pleasing to me!

I did this a couple of times with the same model and we got to know each other and to trust each other as well, very important. My own love is to see wetting and desperation based around outdoor activities small boats canoes horse riding beach all on that kind of outdoor sporty theme! I find it fantastic. I now only maybe do one or two videos each year! Only did one last year and have another in the pipe line which maybe we will not film till next spring now. I like to plan the whole thing down to the very last detail I even write a running script and pick and buy what I want to see my model dress in I find safe locations and when I bring it all together I send the model the outline to see if she is happy with my ideas rough dates locations etc then we bring it together and shoot it. My first model introduced me to some other models as well and we have even used her own boyfriend in one short film which gave him a real buzz you could tell that! OK this does all cost money to put altogether and a lot of planning. But I have to be honest I love that planing part as well. I have always told any models I have used the films will never be shown or posted on the Internet or sold or shown in that way! They are for my own use only. And I have stuck very much to that and always will. I say have a go I was very unsure and did not have a lot of confidence in my own ability but it has been so much fun and I have some out of the world wettings / desperation situations which are what I like and very much do it for me. I realise not everyone would want to try this but honest its not that hard and I like the fact that my videos are still quite raw and I suppose amateurish. I have since brought a much better HD camera which gives fantastic results in picture quality. And my efforts have got better, but that does not worry me at all in fact it adds to it for me.

Go on have a go!

Kevin.

[Maria]

Over the years your wife has gone from being a "non-participant" to standing in the tub and thorughly peeing in her panties.

My suspicion is that one of these days she will come around to doing it fully clothed, in her jeans.

Best of luck.

Hope she enjoys it as much as you will.

[Mike]

Great idea

Good to see this conversation. I'm constantly frustrated by the "quick zoom in" right when the wetting begins. To me, the excitement of desperation is the struggle to hold on, the embarrassment of losing the battle, the look on someone's face as the angst mingles with relief and (of course) excitement. But it's a rare video that shows this -- they almost all zoom in, so we don't get to see the truly exciting part of it.
Anyway, I know not everyone would agree. But I'd love to see that, and to see even OK acting of the embarrassment and panic. I'd certainly pay for those videos.
I'm in NY, so unfortunately can't help with UK productions. But I sure wish I could!

[desp k]

Wow, just had a great idea. Not sore it's been done but probably has. A split screen, Andy Warhol style. One zooming in the other not, or zooming into to the shocked and paniced look on the girls face. The possibilities go on.