Question on how wetset gets its models

[kapulas]

Here are a few questions that have always intrigued me. How do the sites that publish this kind of stuff get girls to do this? OK, OK I know they offer them money, but where do hey come from? How do you start the conversation - "hello nice lady, we'd like to make a movie with you in it. There will not usually be any sex, no whips or chains and nothing dangerous. You may not even have to say much. We'll even give you all the soda, water and wine you can drink and all the bran flakes you can eat. Here's the catch, all you have to do is go to the bathroom in your pants while we film you and publish it on the internet." What are their reactions to this? Do you ever get turned down? Why are girls more shy about showing their faces if they mess their pants versus wetting their pants - the social stigma is about the same.

Anyway, any info on the process you go through to "hire " these lovely ladies to wet and mess themselves will be interesting to me at least.

Not trying to gain any proprietary information or trade secrets; just want to know the back stories here. Thanks.

[Dusty Harold]

Interesting Question

kapulas ,

Though I don't know the process in which Wet Set Magazine go about in hiring / contracting with women to pose for them in both wetting and also in defecating their pants at times to be filmed .

I have asked Patches of Patches Place , the same question . You have posted here . That I Hope She as well as Nikki here at Wet Set can
answer too . In giving both their unique sides of what they have done . To hire girls to be filmed .

Now Patches has told me that she would hire topless dancers . by leaving an ad in a local topless bar / advertise in a local adult newspaper / magazine to get the type of girls . She has used in her many videos of Naughty Female wettings

Since their isn't any nudity nor sex involved in filming of Patches videos Quite a few women do inquire about being filmed and making some extra cash for doing so . Though there are those rare types of women . Who definitely love this type of Naughty film work and enjoy wetting themselves on camera

I Hope this has helped answer those questions you had . Plus I Hope also . That Patches and also Nikki , can add some insight of their own on here as well . In giving you a much broader aspect to how they went about hiring girls to be filmed at times . It would be so kind of them to do so , if possible

Thank You

Dusty Harold

[Patches]

I think I am the only video producer who used to hire strippers. I have talked with the people who run Bound 2 Burst and I Need 2 Pee and they hire girls from websites that advertise models who do adult and fetish material.

While I have gotten some girls that have appeared in my videos from ads, most of the time I would just go to strip clubs and watch the girls on stage to try to get an idea of their attitude and how well they work with other girls. When I saw someone that had the right look and attitude, I would go sit next to the stage with a fist full of money to tip the girl who was dancing. This would get their attention and provide an opportunity to talk for a couple of minutes.

After I presented the video opportunity to them, I would invariably get one of two responses. Some would say, "No way! That is dirty!" Others would say, "Is that all I have to do? You mean I don't have to have sex with anyone? When can I start?"

So yes, it is easy to get models for videos at strip clubs. However, let me point out that it is much easier for a girl to approach another girl about doing this than it is for a guy to approach a girl about making watersports videos. When a guy approaches a girl at a strip club about doing something, the girl has all the red flags up and is extremely suspicious about the real motive!

[Dusty Harold]

An interesting Answer

Patches ,
By any chance and I'm wishing on a star for this to probably happen some day , I Hope , That Mikki Avalin . Who now lives in the North Eastern States now . might look you up or some how bump into you and want to be filmed by you some day . In making a video like you use to do . I know , I know , it's a fantasy of my own creation . Though I can dream can't I of my " Dream Girl " , of Mikki being Naughty for you . That of Especially for me . In how she really loves this fetish . You have spent years filming your style of videos . Plus running a well known best pee porn website . I have come to know , enjoy in and had so much fun in giving you support . As well as feed back to.I consider tops in producing and running a pee porn website. Doing a great job therein. Though now that you have sold it . You could still produce the films . I have and I Hope others in this community have come to enjoy in watching what you have made .

That I Hope that fantasy / Dream I have had for some time . Like many others I have had over time . I truly Hope this one at least comes to reality at some time . It would be so Great to see that done eventually by you and Mikki
Thank You

Dusty Harold

[kapulas]

Patches

Thanks for the reply. You must have some fascinating conversations with these girls. Do you ever have any success talking a girl into doing it who thinks it's "dirty?" Odd that they may have made movies where they have sex in some fashion or give some strange guy oral sex think that merely wetting themselves is dirtier than that but there's no accounting for logic in these matters.

I suspect it is much harder to approach a woman about defecating in her pants than wetting them. What do you have to say to talk someone into doing that? You must be an incredibly good salesperson to sell the idea to some of them. Thanks again. Love your site.

[Patches]

kapulas, I have never tried to talk a girl into doing watersports scenes if she thought it was dirty. It seems to me that if she thinks it's dirty, she would not do good scenes because most of the scenes in my videos show girls intentionally wetting themselves for fun.

As for talking a girl into shitting her pants, I never did that. I used to say to the girls who were doing scenes, "Shit happens but not in my videos!" Actually, that is not completely true because Mela shit her pants in two different scenes in one of my videos by accident. She had diarrhea that day but wanted to do the scenes anyway. Some people here may remember when I had a contest to see if anyone could identify the scenes where Mela shit her pants.

[desp k]

1 of two reactions Patches? That does seem about what I'd expect but is there no sort of grey areas? Like a "hmmmmmmm?, let me think about it"?

[SteveLamonte]

When I saw someone that had the right look and attitude, I would go sit next to the stage with a fist full of money to tip the girl who was dancing. This would get their attention and provide an opportunity to talk for a couple of minutes.

This is incredible. It's clear you truly are a pioneer on every level. I figured everyone I've ever seen in a professionally or semi-professionally produced video or photo shoot came from a model site. That you would be audacious enough to go into a strip club, cash in hand, and be observant enough to determine who to even approach, then actually have that talk...that's excellent. I hope you were able to channel that boldness and perceptiveness into other work as well. You could be off selling million-dollar software packages to business or who knows what else with that kind of fortitude.

Someday I hope they write a book about you. Uh, after this all becomes perfectly acceptable of course; in addition to your numerous contributions, the fact that you've managed to maintain your anonymity from the community at large for two decades is yet another feat. Maybe write your own book!

[Dusty Harold]

That's a Great Idea ! !

I have to say that's a great idea to do some day . Publish it . Then sell it through both Patches Place and at Wet Set as well
It would make for a Excellent coffee table book . like the 3 volumes of Female Anarchy books . That are available on this site ! I would be the first in line to order it if ever , Patches , decide to do so

now in regards to those 2 scenes that Mela did . In which she had shit her pants . I have the DVD of that video . Those 2 scenes are within . Which I do remember them being rather unusual for that type of Patches videos . She had filmed of all those girls . Unlucky I missed out of taking the contest . When it was offered . Though I do recall those scene of what Mela had done in that certain video of what Patches had made back then

I do appreciate that , Patches , It brings back very fond memories of a girl enjoying having Naughty fun at times

Thank You

Dusty Harold

[kapulas]

That IS a great idea

Actually to publish or even video the conversations or a replay of them in which somebody approaches a young girl and asks if she would be interested in being in a video where "all" she has to do is either wet or mess her pants would be fascinating, especially for a young lady who has never done this kind of thing before. The behind the scenes preparation for it after she says yes - like figuring out the scenario, figuring out which kind of pants top use. Getting the girl over any stage fright or shy bladder or bowel problems she might have would be incredible. It would also be fun to hear the girls talk about their thought about doing this and how they felt about filming such a thing. Thanks for listening to all of us here, Patches. You're our hero!

[S1m]

kapulas, I have never tried to talk a girl into doing watersports scenes if she thought it was dirty. It seems to me that if she thinks it's dirty, she would not do good scenes because most of the scenes in my videos show girls intentionally wetting themselves for fun.

As for talking a girl into shitting her pants, I never did that. I used to say to the girls who were doing scenes, "Shit happens but not in my videos!" Actually, that is not completely true because Mela shit her pants in two different scenes in one of my videos by accident. She had diarrhea that day but wanted to do the scenes anyway. Some people here may remember when I had a contest to see if anyone could identify the scenes where Mela shit her pants.

Would have better if you hadn't shared that and put me off those videos with Mela in.

[Patches]

@S1m

Life happens and shit happens! Just keeping it real! If you want to avoid those scenes, then avoid Patches 52 because they are both in that video.

@desp k

The only girls who wanted to "think about it" after hearing the offer to have them do video scenes were ones who were married or had a steady boyfriend whom they wanted to consult before doing any scenes. This meant they were willing to do watersports scenes but they were not sure if their significant other would approve. In every case but one, it meant that they did not end up doing any video scenes.

@SteveLamonte

I never thought that going to a strip club was audacious. I just thought of it as logical and pragmatic. I asked myself where I could find girls who were exhibitionists and not inhibited about showing their bodies and a strip club was the logical place. I also wanted girls who were available locally so scheduling video shoots would not be a problem so using websites that feature models willing to do fetish work meant scheduling trips and lodging which added a layer of inconvenience to scheduling video shoots.

No, I don't want to write an autobiography about my work as a video producer and Patches' Place. I don't want anyone else to write a book like that either. I want to remain anonymous because of my professional career which would suffer if colleagues knew about my video business. This is one of the reasons I removed Patches 1 from distribution since I realized it could cause me problems in the future if anyone recognized me.

@kapulas

I was actually surprised at how many new girls doing their first scenes did not have a problem wetting their pants on cue. I would have thought they might become pee shy in front of a camera but most of them pulled off their first scenes very well with no hesitation.

Also, the girls did not have to come up with their own scenarios for the video scenes. I gave them the ideas for scenes and suggested dialogue they could use but left it up to them to express the ideas in their own words. Many times I also supplied the clothes for them to wear in scenes.

@Dusty

I really do appreciate all the gushing endorsements from you but I do get the feeling it is almost too much and just a little embarrassing for me. Please don't quit but maybe you could scale it back a bit.

[Dusty Harold]

Patches ,
I Understand , with respect , Strange how you were thinking about what I was thinking of what I might have done , in quitting on here . Because I didn't want you to feel " OOH GOSH ! What Has He Said Now " , statements . That make you cringe at times . Though we won't ever see your facial expressions at all
So , Please , forgive me for putting you in the spot light like that . Will try not to let it happen again I apologize for my mistake there . Red face & eye lowered

I must say this on filming the girls . It's a whole lot easier for the girls to wet themselves when the photographer . camera person is a female instead of a male being present . During those first ever shoots That were made of a new girl wetting herself the very first time . Had it been a guy handling the camera and other guys handling the mic's and other equipment . I bet that the novice girl would have definitely become pee shy on the first ever wetting attempt . So being a woman in charge and filming a girl wetting for the first time ever . You have a better chance of getting a good scen shot . Because the girl peeing her jeans . Would be more relaxed in your presence at letting it all go in that case .

Dusty Harold

[Koukouvayia]

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This is one of the reasons I removed Patches 1 from distribution since I realized it could cause me problems in the future if anyone recognized me.

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Patches 1 was a classic had some great humour in it, very different to the rest of the series so it stands out. I'll have to dig it out and watch it again for old times sake :-)

Patches 3 was always my favourite though with Sunny wetting Tinker style in Cheerleader outfit ;-)

Koukouvayia

[2prnot2p]

But, Patches...wasn't Patches 1 filmed about 20 years ago? Plus, you once posted on your site that you and your gal pal both changed your looks right after making the video, right?

So, why the concern about recognition now? What, are you a nationally or worldly figure? I doubt it.

I did listen to the audio clip once of your interview on a radio talk show. You said a Twister game mat works good for peeing. Recall that clip? Only thing I could sense was a slight southern accent.

I think you should re-release Patches 1. Many fans would love to see it!