Question on how wetset gets its models

[Patches]

@Dusty

There have been guys who did the video work from time to time. I can only think of one girl who did her first scenes in front of a guy using the camcorder. It was Misty in Patches 6 and 7. She was 18 years old and the youngest model we ever used in a Patches video. She did have a hard time wetting herself and we had to do a lot of retakes and creative editing to keep the scenes with her interesting.

Most of the regular girls had no problem wetting themselves in front of guys but it seems to make a difference if the guy was supposed to be there when the scene was shot or not. If the guy was helping with the camera work or the lights or the sound, then he had a reason to be present and the girls did not get pee shy. However, if a guy was just watching from behind the camera, then this could affect the performance. I remember one night when we had two married girls doing a scene together. Their husbands were waiting outside the building where we were shooting. I thought it would be a nice thing to invite them to come in and observe how a scene was shot. Well, they sat quietly in the background and both girls froze up and could not pee for the longest time. It seems to make a difference whether the guy who is present is a significant other or someone who is supposed to be there because they are working to make the scene happen just like the girls are. That was the last time I invited a husband or a boyfriend to view a scene as it was being shot. The only exception was a couple of scenes where the husband or boyfriend was part of the scene and he was in front of the camera too. Then the girls were not pee shy.

@Koukouvayia

Patches 1 only ran about 20 minutes and it was later made to run about an hour with some Raysco footage added (with permission). Patches 1 had all kinds of color problems that we could never correct. Of course, the camcorder and editing equipment we had back then was primitive. I was always kind of embarrassed to sell that video because of the poor quality. However, everyone has to start somewhere and this is how we began Patches' Place!

@2prnot2p

You have an excellent memory! Yes, Pockets and I did change our looks after the video was released for sale. No, I am not "a nationally or worldly figure" but I am well know in my professional circles so I do have a legitimate concern about not wanting to be recognized. With all the advancements in software for facial recognition, it would be possible for someone to get a positive identification on me even after aging 20 years.

Yes, I recall the radio interview I did and again, you are very perceptive. I did have a slight southern accent because I lived in the south for a few years.

I have no plans to re-release Patches 1 because of the poor quality. I suppose it might have some value to people for nostalgia reasons but there is much better material available today from many, many sources.

[Dusty Harold]

Interesting Insight

Patches ,

You are correct on the point of guys handling the camera , the lights and such , for them to be there . Since they are behind the equipment . The girls don't actually see them . Just the lights / camera being focused onto them. In that respect they are more relaxed at being able to wet themselves while being filmed . Your point is well taken in how some girls enjoy this while other girls are just doing this for the money . Plus it was interesting in knowing how some girls responded to having their S/O's right there close to hand in observing them at times . { I some times wonder if I making any sense at what I'm trying to say / make a point of on this thread } or at other times as well . In trying to voice my thoughts on some thing .

I want to point out that I had admired how ZombieG , Of '' I Need 2 Pee"
Could get those real close in shots of the gir's crotches . When they finally had burst in holding for as long as possible . Before letting go and flood themselves . So very well in wetting what they were wearing at that time . It really amazes me . How she was able to do that . For example . That DVD that Victiria did for me . I noticed that she tried to cover up , at first , when she had started to pee for me without her panties on
She somewhat cringed then relaxed . As Her stream began to flow ! To me I thought that She was embarrassed at doing this just for me . Which , as I had mentioned to you in a P.M. , about this DVD on how she felt in performing it for only myself and not any one else . How that has made me wonder about . What she was thinking and also feeling at that time . Which in a way is very important , for me , to know and understand why they do what they do at times . In making a video like that . The feelings , thoughts and emotions are critical in understanding how a woman feels in getting to know them in what they had loved to do in front of a camera for fun and profit

That was important to know and to understand in getting to know them better. Not just somebody , but , some one I have great respect and love of friendship for them . That I loved what they had done on video
I wonder if I'm making sense / going over board with praise and admiration . Which I don't wish to over do it on and make another slip up on here .........................

Dusty Harold

[kapulas]

Patches

Thanks for the great stories. I have always wondered how you get a girl to go to the bathroom in her pants in a public setting. That is a very courageous thing to do. Also, these girls do not appear to be drug addled or under the influence - which frankly I don't most of us would like anyway. The fantasy is that a young otherwise healthy girl gets caught short and has to wet herself or that a sexy young lady wants to pee in her pants for her fun or someone else's. What can you tell us about those conversations?

[Patches]

@kapulas

I am not sure I understand your question... perhaps because it is too general. However, let me try to provide an explanation of the attitude most girls had when we were shooting scenes and if it doesn't answer your question, please ask again in a more specific way.

For the girls in my video scenes, it was not just an opportunity to make a little extra money but also an opportunity to brazenly break some social taboos. This created an atmosphere of excitement whether the scene was with one girl or a group of girls. There was always a risk of being caught either by someone seeing what they were doing or by the authorities. Between scenes, you could sense the level of excitement among the girls from their chatter about a scene they had just done. It was like a party between scenes and everybody was up for the challenge of doing the next scene in another setting.

I was talking with Vicktoria back in December and she commented on how we had never been caught by the police in all the years we did scenes. We did get stopped by the police twice in all those years but it was after a scene had been shot and they had no idea what we were really doing. For example, one time the police pulled us over after we shot scene 3 in Patches 46. Someone had called the police that two children were being abducted from a playground and gave a description of the car we were driving. Since there were no children in our car, the police took off to look for another vehicle that fit the description of our car. Afterwards, we laughed our asses off thinking about some little old nearsighted lady in a house across the street from the playground with nothing else to do but file inaccurate reports with the police department!

There was also a time when a mall security guard confronted our cameraman (not me this time) while scene 8 of Patches 44 was being shot. Fortunately, I have a strict policy of identifying all security cameras before doing any public scenes and therefore what Krista was doing in this scene could not be observed from any mall security camera. The security guard thought some upskirt footage was being shot with a camcorder and politely informed the cameraman that this was a family mall and this type of activity was not allowed. Again, this prompted considerable laughter by Krista and the cameraman after they left the mall.

It was these types of events and the possibility of being caught at other times which prompted a high level of excitement and a desire to keep doing additional scenes among the girls. A video shoot was an occasion where they were being given permission to be naughty and do things that society would not approve of. They didn't need drugs because this excitement was addictive! The girls would often suggest ideas for scenes just so they could try more daring public wettings!

So I think I am answering your question when I tell you that the girls did not need to be coaxed into doing public wetting scenes. They would experience a natural high from the scenes they had already done and often I would have to put a damper on some of the more outrageous scenes they wanted to try because I considered them to be too risky.

[Dusty Harold]

Interesting Insight

Patches ,

I have always wanted to hear about how well the girls had felt about doing scenes in your videos . What you have just commented on . In giving us a glimpse of how fun it was for the girls and hopefully yourself
in filming of such scenes in thise videos . I can remember watching Vicktoria , in the post office ? Do her scene of getting a package that she had been looking forward to in getting and how excited she was in finally getting it ! That she wet her pants because of being so excited ! !
Not just getting that package , but , also , as you had remarked at one time . The location of those post office boxes . Were in a strip mall . That had a lot of public traffic coming and going . So that there was a chance for some one or others to see and watch . What was occuring . While you were filming that scene of Vicktoris
I would also like to point out a scene of Vicktoria;s . That was very surprising to me . Though it was not in the scene that was filmed of her peeing her panties and then masturbating herself in that scene that was shot of Her ! !
It was the blooper scene that was the most interesting and funniest of all . Vicktoria , being caught getting Herself off by a some one walking upon the scene of her rubbing her pee soaked crotch of Her panties . When a guy had spooked her
Now that was really a blooper of a scene . That didn't go just right . Though the look of shock on Vicktoria's face was priceless in seeing her surprised like that ! !
Knowing what goes on behind the scenes . Is just as important as arousing as how the original scenes had been filmed . So telling us what had transpired while filming the girls having such A Naughty Fun Time . Is
always good to hear about or to read about in knowing what can happen at times .

I do appreciate what you had shared on here . In answering the many questions asked by so many . Who just wants to know . What it was like to produce the many videos . You have made over the years at Patches Place . You look at it as a business venture . While I and others look at it differently . Girls having fun wetting themselves

Thank You

Dusty Harold

[kapulas]

Thanks Patches. Yes, you answered my question very well. Sounds like you have fun doing these whether it's a private setting or you're in a more daring locale. I'm always impressed with the girls you get to do these movies. They look in some cases like the "girl next door." My guess is that in many cases they are. Some places use young ladies that appear to be drugged or abused in some fashion and are doing this to survive on the streets or to get enough $ for their next fix - sad in my humble view.

Is there a particular "look" or persona you are seeking when you find these young ladies?