Question ; What ever Happened to X - Stream Videos

[Dusty Harold]

I wish to pose a question to all of you on here . That can remember the videos that John Dare use to film and produce . Both in DVD and that of as for down load too .

My question is ; What had happened to Him / to the videos that He once had made . That were at times pretty daring for public wettings / out right squatting open peeing in various places around the U.K. ?

I have a DVD that I had ordered through Patches Place a few years ago . That I still have and watch . Plus had planned to order additional videos . That were listed on Patches's website , but , was informed to hold off on ordering and I eventually decided not too . This being a couple of years ago and forgotten about . Just wondering what eventually happened to John Dare He made some most daring videos of some most Naughty peeing I have ever seen before . Especially in public view .If there's a another thread on this . I wasn't aware of . So I apologize for not knowing about it .................

Dusty Harold

[Wet Trousers]

I believe he moved from the UK to Continental Europe (France?) when the police became too interested in his public exploits. He stopped making X-Streams pissing videos after 5 series of 12 videos (and a few specials).

DVDs remained available from Patches Place / Wet Set for a few years but were supplied by X-Streams from Europe written on a computer or duplicator, not professionally made, and suffered quality issues (wrong DVD / wrong format / badly scratched / simply would not play). I had problems on at least two occasions and Patches had to chase him up several times before errors were put right.

The videos are still available, but only as streams or downloads through the X-Streams website, from Wet Set: http://www.x-streams.com/.

[Percival]

A shame he stopped, as his stuff was among the first I ever saw and remains my favourite.

Ridiculously overpriced though - I just refuse to pay that much.

[Dusty Harold]

Good Information

I do appreciate that information from both of you , Thanks ! I have asked Patches some time ago . before she had sold Her website .Whether I should order another DVD from X - Streams . She informed me , at that time . To hold off . Due to negations with X - Streams foe rights to copy from the master tapes . The videos that X - Streams had available . I never did find out if Patches could have made copies of those videos . Then be able to ship them from Her website . Instead of going through X - Stream to get them . Had She been able to do that . It would have been a very good idea and faster order processing too ! !
I do Hope that Patches will respond to this thread . To clear up any thing I might have missed upon about X - Streams .

Dusty Harold

[Patches]

John Dare was never a very good businessman. He kept selling the rights to his material to different companies and people. This led to some fights between companies when each one thought they had exclusive rights to sell the X-Streams material. He managed to get a lot of people "pissed off" at him (excuse the pun).

Wet Trousers is correct about the quality issues of the DVDs that were sold from the X-Streams web site. The contents of multiple DVDs would sometimes be crammed onto one DVD when customers bought multiple titles. Shipping was erratic and while customers usually got their order eventually, it could take a long time to arrive.

John Dare did move to France at one point but I do not know where he is today. There were rumors that he moved back to England and other rumors that he went to The Netherlands. He could be anywhere at this point and he has dropped out of sight (probably to avoid legal trouble).

Patches' Place was no longer interested in trying to get the rights to distribute the X-Streams DVDs once we learned that those rights were being sold to multiple other companies.

[kevy19]

Hi all.

I like wise have heard many rumours of John Dare I think everyone has covered and filled that side in now without me saying much the same! But I remember when I first found his videos! WOW! I thought they were truly fantastic to me at that time and I brought a number of the early one's from the series one! I thought they were amazing I still have them on VHS tapes that I brought direct from J Dare and being in the electronics repair trade some years ago in my workshop at home I still have an old large colour TV rigged up to a VHS video player and sometimes I still watch them and they still excite me very much to this day! I just loved the Kerry and Drew films! And an all time fav is Kerry wetting in a number of different swim costumes I love this! John Dare had a great rapport with the models it seemed and I very much liked his style in those early series one! I just wish we could have some more films like that today I have said on this board many times to me the pay wetting sites today just seem to offer the same old boring bland stuff! Girl pee's in room girl pee's in garden etc. I suppose that's safe but to me the excitement has gone! Unlike this great John Dare material and to me these are just classics now! And very much in a league of there own.

Kev.

[Dusty Harold]

John Dare was never a very good businessman. He kept selling the rights to his material to different companies and people. This led to some fights between companies when each one thought they had exclusive rights to sell the X-Streams material. He managed to get a lot of people "pissed off" at him (excuse the pun).

Wet Trousers is correct about the quality issues of the DVDs that were sold from the X-Streams web site. The contents of multiple DVDs would sometimes be crammed onto one DVD when customers bought multiple titles. Shipping was erratic and while customers usually got their order eventually, it could take a long time to arrive.

John Dare did move to France at one point but I do not know where he is today. There were rumors that he moved back to England and other rumors that he went to The Netherlands. He could be anywhere at this point and he has dropped out of sight (probably to avoid legal trouble).

Patches' Place was no longer interested in trying to get the rights to distribute the X-Streams DVDs once we learned that those rights were being sold to multiple other companies.

Patches ,
Appreciate that information . I was unsure what had developed over those negotiations you told me about a couple of years ago . When I had asked about ordering another DVD from X - Streams . Didn't know exactly what all took place at that time . So I decided to hold off , but , later on decided not to order a DVD from them . Because everything was up in the air and not settled .

Dusty Harold

[mysteron]

Ridiculously overpriced though - I just refuse to pay that much.

Totally.
I bought a few of the original videos in the late 90's, but although the content was tremendously exciting, they were pretty short tapes for a helluva lot of money. I seem to recall the cheques were payable to David Elson. Maybe John Dare's real name?
I would go as far as to say rip-off price. But that's businessmen for you.

But his models/videos were just about the most outrageously daring peeing scenes I've ever seen, and kudos to him for that, even if his constant prattling away during filming was really off-putting. To me, anyway.

[Dusty Harold]

Totally.
I bought a few of the original videos in the late 90's, but although the content was tremendously exciting, they were pretty short tapes for a helluva lot of money. I seem to recall the cheques were payable to David Elson. Maybe John Dare's real name?
I would go as far as to say rip-off price. But that's businessmen for you.

But his models/videos were just about the most outrageously daring peeing scenes I've ever seen, and kudos to him for that, even if his constant prattling away during filming was really off-putting. To me, anyway.

I have to agree with you on that point . I always found that if I could listen to what the girl was saying about how she felt / thought about while Peeing / wetting Herself . Made it more interesting . As well as more arousing in watching Her peeing
Not J.D. talking also which didn't help any at all
Thanks ,for your reply

[Peevert]

And you can find them here: http://wetset.net/index.php?target=c...ategory_id=193

BTW, ever since the Max Hardcore incident (and he really should have known better), sending or receiving pee movies via US Mail is a ridiculous idea. Use downloading to get your movies. The "community standards" prosecution doesn't work on the internet, since it basically isn't a physical community, and has no standards.

[Scotsboy]

X-streams videos bring back a lot of good memories for me. When I discovered them in 1998, it was among the first public wetting videos I had seen. I couldn't believe watching Carly brazenly pee her panties on Tower Bridge in London in front of many people walking by. She also peed herself sitting at an outside cafe table and was asked to leave. The finest X-streams moments, in my opinion.

Of the 5 series that were filmed over 5 or 6 years, the first 2 were the best. They had the best public wetting scenarios for me. I also loved Kerry wetting on a tube and Toni wetting at Trafalgar Square. Amy (with her mother), Tanya, and Traci were other favourites.

I once spoke to David Elson on the phone when enquiring about a video. I can't remember the reason why. Anyway, he sounded exactly the same as John Dare, so I assumed they were the same person. It was a shame when he ended the X-streams series and I wonder what he's up to these days.

Shortly after, Public Piss Girl (PPG) came along and raised the standard when it came to public wetting videos. They were as brazen and public as I've ever seen to this day. It's a shame nobody is brave enough to film videos on a par with those nowadays, although there's a new clip of a wetting on a busy escalator at Wetting Her Panties. Hopefully more public wetting videos will follow there.

Yes, I will always look upon X-streams wetting videos with affection and thank John Dare for his big contribution to public wetting videos.

[videoman]

X-streams videos bring back a lot of good memories for me. When I discovered them in 1998, it was among the first public wetting videos I had seen. I couldn't believe watching Carly brazenly peeing her panties on Tower Bridge in London in front of many people walking by. She also peed herself sitting at an outside cafe table and was asked to leave. The finest X-streams moment moments, in my opinion.

Of the 5 series that were filmed over 5 or 6 years, the first 2 were the best. They had the best public wetting scenarios for me. I also loved Kerry wetting on a tube and Toni wetting at Trafalgar Square. Amy (with her mother), Tanya, and Traci were other favourites.

I once spoke to David Elson on the phone when enquiring about a video. I can't remember the reason why. Anyway, he sounded exactly the same as John Dare, so I assumed they were the same person. It was a shame when he ended the X-streams series and I wonder what he's up to these days.

Shortly after, Public Piss Girl (PPG) came along and raised the standard when it came to public wetting videos. They were as brazen and public as I've ever seen to this day. It's a shame nobody is brave enough to film videos on a par with those nowadays, although there's a new clip of a wetting on a busy escalator at Wetting Her Panties. Hopefully more public wetting videos will follow there.

Yes, I will always look upon X-streams wetting videos with affection and thank John Dare for his big contribution to public wetting videos.

I thought he was the founder of bound2burst. Although i have never seen him in any of the scenes it sounds like his voice talking to the ladies acting out the different scenarios

[Scotsboy]

I think the founder of Bound 2 Burst is David North. Have never seen him in the B2B videos, but he doesn't sound like John Dare. BTW, I think B2B has gone downhill. Less wetting, and more peeing and "just made it" videos these days. Disappointing.