Any demand for personalized videos?

[KingPlant]

I agree that there probably are. And I will bet that if you buy services from one of these people, you will get something of the same quality or lower than you can find for free by doing a quick web search.

What I'm talking about is not going out with a camcorder and a model and some vague idea of a scene to shoot then sticking it in Windows Movie Maker and making a few cuts and done. I mean to make something that requires preproduction planning, story-boarding, location scouting, etc before it's even shot. During the shoot, do everything multiple times from different angles, get pick up shots, inserts, and b-roll; then spend a good deal of time in post production putting it all together. If a professional quality video is not what you want, then by all means buy from someone who will give you an amateurish one. For what I'm offering, $1000 is ridiculously cheap. Yes, maybe it turns out there's no market for high quality fetish videos, but that's why I'm asking to find out.

Looking at the reply I have from TVGuy I still think you will price yourself out of the market at over $1000. Look at TVGuy's work and tell me that is not some of the best wetting movies on the net. He has a proven track record now so I would be more tempted by his offer.

It's a cutthroat market you are entering.

You will have to be bloody good to beat his movies.

[TVGuy]

Manchineel-

I wish you the best of luck with producing personalized videos. You seem to be around the same place I was at a few years ago when I started HD Wetting. I too had gone to film school, and had already started my own, somewhat successful, video production company. With the economy doing poorly though, I decided to try to break into the wetting video market. I believed with my high end production equipment and professional background I could produce superior videos.

At first, we scripted all of our videos, blocked out the shots, and carefully lit all the scenes. Some of our early videos, like Frankensammy, were full out productions with a full crew, DP, multiple locations, and special effects.

Although what you are offering, customized videos, is different then what I was doing, trying to sell videos to the masses, I still learned a lot that might help you-

It is really hard to find girls who can do a good job delivering dialogue, which makes it very hard to script out videos. I found things seem much more natural if you come up with a rough outline for the video and let the girls ad-lib.

Content is king- I have shot wetting videos on a Red One, with carefully designed lighting and full sound kit and no one cared too much. I have also shot wetting videos with no lighting and the camera's built in mic with a $1000 consumer camera that people loved.

My biggest mistake when I first started is I was too focused on trying to make a film and not enough focused on the fetish. It is easy to spend too much time working on the screenplay, setting up shots, lighting, telling a story, developing characters, and forget about what it is that people are really wanting to see.

Good luck!

[KingPlant]

In order to make a good wetting movie, ideally, you need to be into the fetish. Otherwise it makes it difficult to do justice to the people who are paying for your product.

It would be nicer if you could get models who like doing it also but most of them see it as a job. Some of the regular girls have knowledge from the feedback they get from the forums which helps them produce a better product, but it is just that to most of them, a product.

My personal favourite is a big ask and for the woman to do it she would have to be not only into wetting but also exibitionism. I love the outside wetting movies where the woman has to walk a good distance in her wet pants. The Japanese do some great movies for that.

[Consch]

I think what I would find most impressive right now about a staged scenario-based fetish movie would be good acting, particularly if the scenario is rare. I don't really care whether the lines are scripted or ad-libbed, but the characters should be convincingly portraying whatever emotion or attitude they are supposed to have, and behaving as the character would behave in the given situation. If my favorite scenarios seemed to actually be taking place on video, and the (character's) reactions were what I was hoping for, then I'd be impressed even if the whole thing was filmed by a teenager with a cell phone.

[Manchineel]

The reason I estimate the figure so high is just paying the models and actors mainly. If there were some girls who wanted to work for $100 a day, that would make it pretty cheap to make videos. I just think it would be more like $500 a day or more. Maybe you can give me a better idea what to expect in this regard TVGuy?

[TVGuy]

I don't hesitant to talk about exactly how much I pay the girls on the site, but you are right, that it costs a lot of money every day.

That is why when we do shoots for HD Wetting, we have to start early and shoot several videos throughout the course of a day. This is part of the reason why we no longer do full film style shoots any longer- it simply takes too long to get a single video shot.

For the better part of the first year of HD Wetting, the site lost money every month. The costs of running the site and paying the girls outweighed any income the site was making. Even now, we are barely at the break even point. I have to be very careful to make sure we are shooting enough videos to make the day rate I pay the girls worth it. Otherwise I can easily end up putting more money into the site then I make off it.

[lazy bear]

someone ask for idea...

well,surfing sites like this one I found plenty of like-minded
who prefer to see desperation...more than scene where
females just wetting their pants.

on youtube there are few great videos of girls caught in a real desperate situation and yes
...I know it is difficult to achieve in directed film but bound2burst manage that in their
series of movies holding it 4 hours, holding contests or measuring bladder...

...where girls holding as long as they can and fill measure cup with more than 500 ml of fluid
so finally we have a proof that the grabbing crotch and pee dance was with good reason!

simple as that

[Manchineel]

One way this could work is if I can get contributions from people enough to pay the models, I'll make it and just make it freely available to the community. Kind of like open source wetting videos.

As suggested before, I'll go ahead and outline an idea I had and see if anyone might be interested in contributing to seeing it made. I think it would be relatively cheap and easy to make as it only involves one actor and one easily securable location.

There's a girl gamer sitting at her computer not completely dressed, maybe panties and a nightshirt or something. She is participating in a raid or something in an online game. She has a head set on and can hear the other people in the game as if over Ventrillo. She tells the others that she is going to the bathroom and will be afk, but the leader of the team absolutely goes nuts and says she can't leave because she's the only healer and they need her there or something like that. He says she needs to hold it until they get to a less perilous spot. They continue and she is squirming around more and more as time goes by, occasionally complaining more that she needs to go and being denied by the team. She leaks a little into her panties but maintains control. After some period of desperation she eventually decides it's useless and she's just going to have to let it go. She scoots to the front of her chair and lets loose while still playing the game and chatting to the others, maybe admitting what she is doing or not haven't decided. Also don't know if she pulls her panties to the side to piss on the floor or pisses through them. Pulling panties to the side and exposing the pussy might be more objectionable to the model maybe and hike up the rate?

A lot of my ideas are along these lines. Where a girl is really desperate in a situation in which she could possibly go to the bathroom but chooses that something else is more important than going, and once she is unable to hold it decides instead to go on the floor or the chair or wherever she is on purpose rather than go to the bathroom.

[Consch]

One way this could work is if I can get contributions from people enough to pay the models, I'll make it and just make it freely available to the community. Kind of like open source wetting videos.

As suggested before, I'll go ahead and outline an idea I had and see if anyone might be interested in contributing to seeing it made. I think it would be relatively cheap and easy to make as it only involves one actor and one easily securable location.

There's a girl gamer sitting at her computer not completely dressed, maybe panties and a nightshirt or something. She is participating in a raid or something in an online game. She has a head set on and can hear the other people in the game as if over Ventrillo. She tells the others that she is going to the bathroom and will be afk, but the leader of the team absolutely goes nuts and says she can't leave because she's the only healer and they need her there or something like that. He says she needs to hold it until they get to a less perilous spot. They continue and she is squirming around more and more as time goes by, occasionally complaining more that she needs to go and being denied by the team. She leaks a little into her panties but maintains control. After some period of desperation she eventually decides it's useless and she's just going to have to let it go. She scoots to the front of her chair and lets loose while still playing the game and chatting to the others, maybe admitting what she is doing or not haven't decided. Also don't know if she pulls her panties to the side to piss on the floor or pisses through them. Pulling panties to the side and exposing the pussy might be more objectionable to the model maybe and hike up the rate?

A lot of my ideas are along these lines. Where a girl is really desperate in a situation in which she could possibly go to the bathroom but chooses that something else is more important than going, and once she is unable to hold it decides instead to go on the floor or the chair or wherever she is on purpose rather than go to the bathroom.

I can't say that I share that particular fantasy. However, I don't want this thread to die, so I feel that I should say something.

First, I would be willing to contribute to have your idea made into a movie, just to see how your style differs from those of other filmmakers. However, it wouldn't be a project that I would feel particularly excited about, and I don't think I'd want to contribute more than, say, $100.

Second, I would like to reiterate that the story I have written is only one of many possible scenarios that fit my fantasy. It is, however, the only fully-detailed pee story I have written. If you like I can describe a few more related scenarios. If location is an issue, I can probably come up with at least one such scenario set in any location you can name.

Finally, I will tell you about another fantasy I have: Desperation as part of a game, actually woven into the game and not merely tacked on. I think the more complex the game, and the more rules that relate to desperation, the better. If you like I can give some examples.